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Maru ([personal profile] yakalskovich) wrote 2003-12-01 01:15 pm (UTC)

Answer!

Poor Lady! The watchers probably were an ancient people of very advanced civilisation that lived about 9000 years ago in the mountains of Anatolia and Kurdistan, and that have come down in history as angels. They appear to have been the very first to have started our culture as we know it which has, by now, swept through all the world. They seem to have made all the most important discoveries of the Neolithic revolution all by their lonesomes, and much earlier than anyone thought. Their very existence has been a crackpot theory until a very short time ago when something resembling proof turned up at a very ancient excavation site at Göbekli Tepe in Turkey. Andy Collins who gave a lecture at GrisseCon wrote about them long before there was that evidence, thus labeling himself a crackpot and gleefully adhering to that label still, although I think his ideas and methods are much more sensible, rational and mainstream scientific than he gives himself credit for. Follow the link for "Andy Collins" in my main entry to find out more about the Watchers, and the links where I say "I thought" for my last Watcher entry on my LiveJournal.-

Ahh, yes, and Storm wrote a trilogy about them: "Stalking Tender Prey", "Scenting Hallowed Blood" and "Stealing Sacred Fire", collectively known as the Grigori Trilogy (Grigori as in the Greek word for "shepherd" (=watcher), which *did* become a first name, Gregory in English, and Grigori in Russian, mostly after St. Gregory of Nyssa; and that just happened to be Rasputin's first name, so if I come to the chat as Raspy, that's the name I have to use, even if Storm teases me about it every time she sees me online in that guise).

You might have met them in the most unlikely of contexts, in the hilarious movie "Dogma" with Matt Damon and Ben Affleck (and Alan Rickman as Metatron, more importantly). One of those angels in that movie is called "a Grigori", although he certainly isn't (for the aforementioned reason: the Grigori were an ancient people that only seemed to be angels for their contemporaries because they were so advanced, and not really spiritual beings beyond the constraints of time).

So, I hope all understanding has been cleared up completely, and I have confused you utterly - always a good place to start some new research...

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