Because nazgulwears and I were wondering...

[yakalskovich]

Bond/le Chiffre BDSM: is that already canon slash (like, say, Jack/Ianto or Jack/Jack) or just very, very strong subtext (like, say, Aubrey/Maturin from 'Master and Commander')?

Comments

[misslucyjane]

I'm almost afraid to ask what inspired this question . . . but to answer it, hopefully, there's a scene in Casino Royale where Bond is tortured while naked. I think that's as close it gets to canonical BDSM.

[yakalskovich]

That scene was actually what inspired the question. He gets beaten with a nasty rope onto his privates, even. Poor bloke. We were just wondering if that fulfilled the specs of being canon slash, or if that was still subtext.

[misslucyjane]

Ahhh...I wouldn't call it slash at all, myself: it's inflicting pain for the sake of inflicting pain, not for any kind of sexual rush.

[yakalskovich]

Well, it might have given Le Chiffre a sexual rush (and mind you, i have no idea who Le Chiffre-mun in Milliways is, I mean the canon charrie, not the Milli!pup), but it certainly didn't do for Bond. And consensuality gets taken very serious by the BDSM types I read and heard about.

Also, the point in the exercise wasn't the sexual rush but the extraction of information, even if Le Chiffre set it up in a way that he'd enjoy it.

[nazgulwears.livejournal.com]

Oh, they are working for that ministry too?
(Sorry, could not resist)

[yakalskovich]

Now we finally know who James Bond works for. The ministry!!